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Arthur => Episodes => Topic started by: Snowth Woogle on November 25, 2013, 12:43:28 pm

Title: Vomitrocious!
Post by: Snowth Woogle on November 25, 2013, 12:43:28 pm
I just want to say that I feel very sorry for George in this episode, not necessarily because the other kids were picking on him for being "disgusting", but mainly because nosebleeds in general are no fun... I've been there before, and if it can't be controlled, you know what they do? They literally electrocute in the inside of your nostril. I'm not joking; I had a nosebleeding problem a few years ago, it could be controlled, so my mom took me to this sadistic creep of a doctor, who shoved what was almost like a little cattle prod up my nose and eletrocuted the blood vessels to stop the bleeding... pardon my French, but it HURT LIKE HELL! Probably the most intense, agonizing, excrutiating pain I ever felt in my life. I sure hope George has better luck with his nosebleeds, and it doesn't come to this.
Title: Re: Vomitrocious!
Post by: A Lotta Moms on November 25, 2013, 01:48:33 pm
That's absolutely horrifying.  :o  I also suffered from nosebleeds a lot when I was a kid (and still do on occasion).  Good thing I never went to the doctor...

Barfine really showed her nasty side in this one, but got a not-so-pleasant taste of her own medicine as it came back up from her stomach, through her esophagus, and all over the cafeteria floor.   :P

Episodes like this one and Draw! really make Francine believable, specifically because she's usually a pretty likable character.  I think the fact that she's occasionally mean-spirited actually makes her much more interesting.  Like most real-life kids, she shows the capacity to help and harm others, and learn from her mistakes.  I'm really impressed with how effectively she transitions from detestable bully to sympathetic victim in these episodes, and all over the course of just 15 minutes.  This can't be said of very many cartoon characters. 
Title: Re: Vomitrocious!
Post by: Roabe on November 25, 2013, 07:44:09 pm
Same here with getting nosebleeds. I'm also susceptible to nasal allergies which just makes it even worse. Funnily enough though, unlike George I was never made fun of for it as a kid. The few times I had a nosebleed at school, the other kids were concerned that I was dying or something.

Notice though that future episodes involving George never mention his nosebleed problem again. I guess it was one of those one-episode-only things that the show is known for. :)

I agree about the duality of Francine's character. Muffy has that same quirk as well, albeit on a much more subtle level.

But other times it's overdone to the point that I find it offensive. Take the episode where Jenna is a bedwetter. Early on, Francine makes fun of Jenna behind her back (literally), that she can't sleep anywhere without her mommy and daddy. Then at the end of the episode, Jenna tries to hide the fact that the pullup is hers by passing it off as being someone else's. Francine tells her off, saying that she might have hurt somebody's feelings. Gee Francine, what about Jenna's feelings when you were making fun of her behind her back a day ago?
Title: Re: Vomitrocious!
Post by: A Lotta Moms on November 26, 2013, 02:27:09 pm
That's true about Muffy.  It's sort of the reverse for her - while Francine's usually a nice person, Muffy's usually misguided and selfish, but only on rare occasion shows hints of goodness (i.e. planting cherry trees or confessing that she cheated off of Francine).  She does seem much less likely than Francine (or anyone else, for that matter) to be able to see the error of her ways.  Either that, or she just doesn't care enough to change them. 

Of course, that's what makes Miss Muffeh so much fun to watch in action.  :D   Well, that and all of her smashing different hairstyles...

Peachy icing on a bundt cake, dammit!
Title: Re: Vomitrocious!
Post by: Roabe on November 26, 2013, 05:45:57 pm
I think it's just easy from a writing standpoint to place Muffy in those kinds of roles, as is making her the villain, or a foil to make another character-- usually Francine 9 times out of 10-- look good, etc.

Plus she makes for a convenient scapegoat whenever the kids are being mean as a group. Going back to "Vomitrocious" (just so we're not completely straying from the original topic  ;)), when all the kids are making fun and laughing at George in the Sugar Bowl, Muffy is the only one out of all of them who is actually shown laughing.

I've taken a liking to Muffy for those reasons, out of spite for the lazy writing. :) Plus it's fun to root for the villain every once in a while.  ;)

As for her hair, it's safe to say that she has worn more hairstyles than any other character.
Title: Re: Vomitrocious!
Post by: A Lotta Moms on November 26, 2013, 06:42:55 pm
All good points.  It's subtle because she's always alongside the main group as a friend, but Muffy really is the main villain of the series.  Though she's not necessarily a direct adversary, she usually passively represents the wrong message or some immoral position that the "good guy" characters must avoid to successfully deliver a good, wholesome message to the audience.  Her position of wealth, vanity and self-interest is a lure and real-life temptation that the young audience is led to see through.

In that regard, she's a bit of a Satan figure.  Her extravagant wealth, value of the material over the spiritual, family tradition of deception, and frequently-changing hairstyles and outfits; a unique shape-shifting ability that no other character has shown to such an extent; all make her fit the symbolic role even more so.

And by virtue of her villainy, here Muffy has successfully managed to hijack poor George's nosebleed thread for herself.   :D
Title: Re: Vomitrocious!
Post by: Ladonna Compson on November 26, 2013, 09:43:39 pm
its weird how at the beggining of the series, she was more of the "being controlled by her own sins" sort of person. at first she seemed naive, but skilled in all the things her character type (ie, rich.) shouldn't be, or need to be experienced in. she was/is a skilled liar, cheater, and overall mean girl. but she could also be caring, and repentant, like she was trapped by her own...what? brattyness? I dont know... she was basically begging for redemption, but she just got more stereotyped over the seasons went on (lost both her cattiness and her feeling,) and now her character has barely any diversity, and, she is really annoying. ugh! why, story9, why?
Title: Re: Vomitrocious!
Post by: ralfsmouse on December 01, 2013, 02:28:31 pm
I've actually never had a nosebleed. I consider myself lucky for that, they seem terrible to have.

By this point in the series, I wasn't surprised by Francine. She had already showed her two faces in the earliest seasons, like when she poked fun at Arthur about his glasses and the grudge-holding attitude in "Locked In The Library!" What was interesting however was the fact that she recompensed George at the end of the episode. In her earlier spells of evil, she would simply keep her personality until the end of the episode.
Title: Re: Vomitrocious!
Post by: A Lotta Moms on December 01, 2013, 03:54:46 pm
It's interesting, Francine really did start out in the books as primarily a bully and antagonist.  This is before even Muffy hit the scene, back in the fabled era of the 70s and early 80s.  First, she made fun of Arthur's nose, and then his glasses as you mentioned.  Once Muffy showed up and assumed the role of key antagonist, Francine grew into more of a frenemy, and then finally into a platonic best female friend.

An evolving little monkey, indeed.
Title: Re: Vomitrocious!
Post by: Roabe on December 02, 2013, 07:49:44 pm
Poor George. First Muffy, and now Francine commandeering a topic that was originally about him.

Title: Re: Vomitrocious!
Post by: A Lotta Moms on December 02, 2013, 07:51:16 pm
All fear the mighty Jewfro!   :D
Title: Re: Vomitrocious!
Post by: Snowth Woogle on December 02, 2013, 10:00:54 pm
Danny Stern is so afraid of his own Jewfro it makes him scream... LIKE A MAN!


Apparently he died in the first 38 seconds of the vid for some reason.
Title: Re: Vomitrocious!
Post by: A Lotta Moms on December 03, 2013, 07:31:33 pm
Apparently he died in the first 38 seconds of the vid for some reason.

Thankfully he was reborn in time to die a second, much more terrifying death around 1:25.   

Title: Re: Vomitrocious!
Post by: Buster And Molly Lover on November 07, 2017, 01:56:49 pm
I think Sue Ellen is the only one who cares for him, giving him a napkin for his nose.  :(