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Re: Arthur @ NY Comic Con 2013
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2013, 11:25:46 pm »
No! No-no-no-no-NO! This can NOT be happening! Worlds are continuing to collide!!!

First it was Sid & Marty Krofft... THEN it was the Muppets... NOW it's Arthur! Nooooooo! Civilization continues to crumble! Things like puppets, Muppets, and Arthur need to be kept as faaaaaaaaar away from creepy-peepy, freaky-deaky fan conventions as possible! Worlds are colliding!
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Re: Arthur @ NY Comic Con 2013
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2013, 10:23:33 pm »
No! No-no-no-no-NO! This can NOT be happening! Worlds are continuing to collide!!!

First it was Sid & Marty Krofft... THEN it was the Muppets... NOW it's Arthur! Nooooooo! Civilization continues to crumble! Things like puppets, Muppets, and Arthur need to be kept as faaaaaaaaar away from creepy-peepy, freaky-deaky fan conventions as possible! Worlds are colliding!

My thoughts exactly. Part of me knows that I want to go now, but the bigger part of me knows that I would never go to Comic Con.

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Re: Arthur @ NY Comic Con 2013
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2013, 10:36:31 pm »
Well this is interesting. Looks like we have Season 18 and 19 coming in. As for the Comic-Con if I was given the chance I would go. It will be interesting to see what is asked.

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Re: Arthur @ NY Comic Con 2013
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2013, 04:29:07 pm »
My thoughts exactly. Part of me knows that I want to go now, but the bigger part of me knows that I would never go to Comic Con.
I know I really shouldn't say anything, because a number of different friends of mine do actually go to these different kinds of conventions (matter of fact, one friend of mine actually met Doug Walker at an anime convention), but based on the photos and video footage I've seen from people who do attend those kind of cons... it just really disturbs me...

Some people have justified that cons are usually an opportunity for people to forget about their troubles, responsibilities, and such for a short time, and just have fun... I guess I can see that, but when I see grown men and women running around dressed up and acting like different anime/manga characters, that kind of weirds me out.

Even scarier was an article I read not too long ago that cosplaying has become such a big deal in recent years that many people who do it regularly consider it a "way of life".

I will admit, there was that MuppetFest in 2002, which I didn't know about at the time, but had I known, I would have wanted to go, but other than that...
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Re: Arthur @ NY Comic Con 2013
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2013, 11:44:40 pm »
This is the big chance to be in the audience and ask  about any deep dark secrets about the making of the series. You will have  the one time only chance to get all these that  people that never hang out together in one venue and in the spotlight. There should be some fireworks. I will be there and hope to see some well posed questions in the Q&A section.

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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2013, 03:39:54 pm »
Since I can't afford to travel cross-country on a school weekend, I'll just list my questions now, in case someone living in New York sees this topic.
  • According to a Press Release from 2009, Lydia is planned to be in two additional future episodes. What's the status on those?
  • Steve's design was taken from a character in the book Arthur's Teacher Trouble. How many others were like this, and which ones were freshly designed for the show?
  • What are the names of the Lakewood kids who are not in Ratburn's class?
  • Who's Dewey?
  • Are the books and the cartoon considered to be part of the same canon? If so, which takes priority in conflicting accounts?

You know Magne, Arthur is on Twitter. If you do have the chance you could potentially ask that question days before the event takes place, which is next Sunday.

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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2013, 10:25:30 pm »
You know Magne, Arthur is on Twitter. If you do have the chance you could potentially ask that question days before the event takes place, which is next Sunday.
I've tried asking question 3 before, but to no avail. It irks me that they confirm Maria's name, then seemingly ignore any other requests to provide the names of any other characters.

In fact, if not for Earwig providing those modelsheets here on ECC, we wouldn't have 8 or 9 names that we do now. If the other character names are ever going to be released, it will most likely be here on ECC. (Unless they give the names in an episode, which would be preferred by far ;D)

Maybe they don't have the modelsheets available at the time. We all have to wait. Besides, we can easily figure out who Sharon, Mark, Dawn, and Alex are. It's pretty simple from what I see.

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Re: Arthur @ NY Comic Con 2013
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2013, 08:44:28 pm »
This is the big chance to be in the audience and ask  about any deep dark secrets about the making of the series. You will have  the one time only chance to get all these that  people that never hang out together in one venue and in the spotlight. There should be some fireworks. I will be there and hope to see some well posed questions in the Q&A section.
I keep telling myself that I don't want to go... but it sounds like it would be so interesting to hear.

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Re: Arthur @ NY Comic Con 2013
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2013, 12:38:02 pm »

Answer: Our goal was to expose kids to real music, not just music made for kids. Reggae is a genre few kids are familiar with.
I hate to say it, but unfortunately, I think it's because of the stigma reggae has of being druggie music.
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2013, 06:25:37 pm »
Looks like we will hear from Alex and Maria in the near future. Now that's cool.


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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2013, 04:17:10 pm »
If such an episode is created, it will instantly be my favorite. I also hope they use Earwig's idea to give her a Canadian accent. Arthur is a joint American/Canadian children's animated series, after all!

Besides: More character creativity! More original ideas! More stuff (I like stuff)!

Or they could make her Italian. :D That would be very interesting as they never had an Italian character on the show before.

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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2013, 07:47:49 pm »
Since I can't afford to travel cross-country on a school weekend, I'll just list my questions now, in case someone living in New York sees this topic.
  • According to a Press Release from 2009, Lydia is planned to be in two additional future episodes. What's the status on those?
  • Steve's design was taken from a character in the book Arthur's Teacher Trouble. How many others were like this, and which ones were freshly designed for the show?
  • What are the names of the Lakewood kids who are not in Ratburn's class?
  • Who's Dewey?
  • Are the books and the cartoon considered to be part of the same canon? If so, which takes priority in conflicting accounts?

You know Magne, Arthur is on Twitter. If you do have the chance you could potentially ask that question days before the event takes place, which is next Sunday.

I will try to answer because these don't seem so mysterious.
I didn't know there were 2 more Lydia shows but I do know that one more is being planned for season 18 but there are no details yet.

Steve is taken from the book like you mentionned. I think Maria is also. Sue Ellen is but looks very different in the book. George was origionally done as a new incidental kid and his name initially was moose boy as far as animation was concerened.
There are lots of known other kids at Lakewood that are not in Arthur's class. Such as Prunella, the tough customers, There are also some little kids first graders. There is also the Sweetwater class which is another 3 rd grade class. I could try to find the models and tell you the names but these names may even change if they ever become a speaking part. They currently all have names so that they can be identified as something on the model sheets that are available for storyboard artists.
Often they are named after the designer or people that worked in Cinar studios at the time. I know there is a Richard named after Richard Morris the designer for one example . I will need to look into this further.

Basically you need to remember that the series began in 1994 after about 15 books were done. So only the characters in those books were taken from the books. Arthur in many of the books looked very different than what you see in the series. I would hope that people now recognize Arthur and his friends as the ones that exist in the animated series rather than the books.
In illustration the character can change proportion and detail and size from picture to picture but in animation the model needs to be 3 dimensional and consistant as it moves from image to image  to create animation . If it changes each drawing then it would flicker and distort in some bizarre manner.
To note that Marc Brown's books that came out after the series began in 1995 are stories and designs that were taken from the artists at Cinar and the writers that wrote the scripts in the US.

The series facts and continuity are now the bible and overule anything in the books at this point.

I'm not sure about Dewey. Can you send me more info on him?

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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2013, 09:32:28 am »
In this case I would say the show would over ride the book. Not that the book is wrong because the book is the book and who knows why it changed. However in this case I would assume the book is an Arthur adventure book that was based on the script from the tv show and published after the show aired. So most likely if that character appeared again later he would have the name from the tv show and not the book and he will look like he looked in the tv show and not like the illustration. The books are not used as reference any more by the writers or show designers because the books are already an adaptation from the larger show.

Even in the case that character came from a book before the series began and the name or look changed, the character would still look like it did when it appeared in the TV show. For example I saw the Sue Ellen character in an early book and it bore no resemblence to the one in the show and her name was never mentionned. But it would never go back to what it was in the book. Although could be a pretty funny fantasy sometime to have the characters appear like they did in the early books. Like when Arthur had that long droopy snout like a real aardvark and fur on his face.

Right,that Dewey. I forgot DW's Dewey line. I'm kind of dense these days.
Basically you need to remember that the series began in 1994 after about 15 books were done. So only the characters in those books were taken from the books. Arthur in many of the books looked very different than what you see in the series. I would hope that people now recognize Arthur and his friends as the ones that exist in the animated series rather than the books.
In illustration the character can change proportion and detail and size from picture to picture but in animation the model needs to be 3 dimensional and consistant as it moves from image to image  to create animation . If it changes each drawing then it would flicker and distort in some bizarre manner.
To note that Marc Brown's books that came out after the series began in 1995 are stories and designs that were taken from the artists at Cinar and the writers that wrote the scripts in the US.

The series facts and continuity are now the bible and overule anything in the books at this point.
OK. My concern was for cases like, for example: The robotic dad that Brain built in season 4 was named LAF (Life-Like, Automated Father), but in the chapter book, it was named RALF (Remote Lifelike Automated Father). Since the show overrules the books, then the robot is ultimately named LAF.

I'm not sure about Dewey. Can you send me more info on him?
That was actually a joke. ;) A reference to the Library Card song from season 3, where D.W. repeatedly asks "who's Dewey" (of the Dewey Decimal System).

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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2013, 08:26:20 pm »
All this excitement over Alex and Maria possibly talking... anybody else here a fan of Ernest P. Worrell? I noticed in the Ernest franchise, Bobby never spoke in any of the old Chuck and Bobby commercials, or the HEY VERN, IT'S ERNEST TV series, yet in the old Ernest movies, Bobby would actually get a line or two... most notably in ERNEST GOES TO JAIL, Bobby confronts Ernest's criminal doppelganger, Mr. Nash, with, "Freeze, punk! Make your play!"
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