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Earwig

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Arthur character model
« on: February 03, 2013, 08:54:34 am »
There must be a better place to put this post but it occured to me that the site doesn't have the official design of the Arthur character as he was created for the series. So here is the official line work Arthur rotation and lip model used by the animators, storyboard artists, and designers.
It should be helpful for anyone who is ever in the mood for drawing some Arthur artwork or animation.

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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2013, 08:59:58 pm »
There must be a better place to put this post but it occured to me that the site doesn't have the official design of the Arthur character as he was created for the series. So here is the official line work Arthur rotation and lip model used by the animators, storyboard artists, and designers.
It should be helpful for anyone who is ever in the mood for drawing some Arthur artwork or animation.

Thanks this will be helpful to those that want to draw.

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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2013, 09:09:13 pm »
It would be a good resource to put up the original 20 or so characters that were created for the animated series that starte off the whole series before it began in production. I think of it as the dirty dozen because I'm not really sure how many characters that were designed prior to finalizing the initial production deal.

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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2013, 10:27:37 pm »
That would be interesting to see.  One thing I like about the oldest episodes is the random background characters that you hardly-- or never-- see in the newer episodes.

I know this isn't the right thread to ask-- but with as much material and episodes this show has, were there ever any noteworthy scenes that never made the final cut? Or even entire episodes that never aired?

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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2013, 11:28:16 pm »
That would be interesting to see.  One thing I like about the oldest episodes is the random background characters that you hardly-- or never-- see in the newer episodes.

I know this isn't the right thread to ask-- but with as much material and episodes this show has, were there ever any noteworthy scenes that never made the final cut? Or even entire episodes that never aired?

That's something I wonder about. So many things were packed into the Arthur Series it's possible that did happen. I wouldn't be shocked if somethings that were originally suppose to happen never came to light. Like Alex and Maria being involved with the gang for example.
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2013, 10:16:05 am »
That would be interesting to see.  One thing I like about the oldest episodes is the random background characters that you hardly-- or never-- see in the newer episodes.

I know this isn't the right thread to ask-- but with as much material and episodes this show has, were there ever any noteworthy scenes that never made the final cut? Or even entire episodes that never aired?

Sometimes scenes had to be cut or cut back because of events that took place that were bad coincidences. There was a scene in Buster Baxter and the Letter from the Sea that had a big tidal wave that approached the underwater kingdom. The scene was substantially cut back because of the devastating tsunami  in southeast asia in 2004. There was a fear that it was in bad taste and would lead to further anxiety for some kids.

In the Great McGrady when the kids were having a fantasy about Mrs. McGrady dying of cancer. There was a scene of McGrady walking down the hall into some bright glowing light effects at the end of the fantasy. But the efx were removed and I believe the scene may be gone entirely in the final cut. Anyway that whole show is not airing now because of the Lance Armstrong cheating admission.

There was also the famous Postcards from Buster episode called Sugartime Vermont that was removed from the circuit of shows and lead to the head of PBS kids resigning over the right to free speech. The George Bush government wanted the show removed and threatened removing funding because they were against the depiction of a family with 2 moms.

A few episodes never air on TVO network in Canada because they feltt they were too scary. The show with the purple orange comes to mind.

There was a show made for a  private company by Cinar/WGBH. Not really a show exactly. It was a  story with Arthur characters and one of the characters did not have a head. The idea was that kids could pay to send in their photo and have it mapped onto the Arthur character so the kid would appear in an Arthur show. It was a story made specifically for that venture. The company went out of business and never paid so it was put on the shelf and never used. Could be wrong about this but I think it was called. You are Arthur.

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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2013, 09:29:36 pm »
That would be interesting to see.  One thing I like about the oldest episodes is the random background characters that you hardly-- or never-- see in the newer episodes.

I know this isn't the right thread to ask-- but with as much material and episodes this show has, were there ever any noteworthy scenes that never made the final cut? Or even entire episodes that never aired?

Sometimes scenes had to be cut or cut back because of events that took place that were bad coincidences. There was a scene in Buster Baxter and the Letter from the Sea that had a big tidal wave that approached the underwater kingdom. The scene was substantially cut back because of the devastating tsunami  in southeast asia in 2004. There was a fear that it was in bad taste and would lead to further anxiety for some kids.

In the Great McGrady when the kids were having a fantasy about Mrs. McGrady dying of cancer. There was a scene of McGrady walking down the hall into some bright glowing light effects at the end of the fantasy. But the efx were removed and I believe the scene may be gone entirely in the final cut. Anyway that whole show is not airing now because of the Lance Armstrong cheating admission.

There was also the famous Postcards from Buster episode called Sugartime Vermont that was removed from the circuit of shows and lead to the head of PBS kids resigning over the right to free speech. The George Bush government wanted the show removed and threatened removing funding because they were against the depiction of a family with 2 moms.

A few episodes never air on TVO network in Canada because they feltt they were too scary. The show with the purple orange comes to mind.

There was a show made for a  private company by Cinar/WGBH. Not really a show exactly. It was a  story with Arthur characters and one of the characters did not have a head. The idea was that kids could pay to send in their photo and have it mapped onto the Arthur character so the kid would appear in an Arthur show. It was a story made specifically for that venture. The company went out of business and never paid so it was put on the shelf and never used. Could be wrong about this but I think it was called. You are Arthur.

Well it goes to show some things don't always make it to the final cut.

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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2013, 10:19:53 pm »
Hah. You're always so positive MC CJ. Sadly I have a feeling that Maria never spoke though . What kind of a cruel person would ever edita big moment like that. I bet she has a big nasty hoser Canadian accent so they can't let her speak on PBS or the kids might start saying "out" properly.  :)

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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2013, 11:27:26 pm »
Hah. You're always so positive MC CJ. Sadly I have a feeling that Maria never spoke though . What kind of a cruel person would ever edita big moment like that. I bet she has a big nasty hoser Canadian accent so they can't let her speak on PBS or the kids might start saying "out" properly.  :)

Not every character speaks. I've been watching shows where some characters were never heard speaking. It happens. As for whether that will continue with Alex or Maria only time will tell. The closest to Maria ever speaking was that episode Francine Frensky, Superstar where she, Alex, and Fern said "We don't believe it". That's the only time I can think of. Most people do say I am an optimist after all. :)
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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2013, 11:21:33 pm »
In the Great McGrady when the kids were having a fantasy about Mrs. McGrady dying of cancer. There was a scene of McGrady walking down the hall into some bright glowing light effects at the end of the fantasy. But the efx were removed and I believe the scene may be gone entirely in the final cut. Anyway that whole show is not airing now because of the Lance Armstrong cheating admission.

I think I see what you're talking about...This fantasy?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfZgS6QYAlA#t=8m18s

At 9:09, was that green wall at the end of the hall added in to cover up the "light effects"? It looks like it. Never noticed that. Now we know why Francine was so overwhelmed from that dream. Was the dialogue about Mrs. Macgrady changing jobs added in as well? Because it doesn't really the fit the original context of her supposed to be "dying".

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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2013, 11:25:14 pm »
In the Great McGrady when the kids were having a fantasy about Mrs. McGrady dying of cancer. There was a scene of McGrady walking down the hall into some bright glowing light effects at the end of the fantasy. But the efx were removed and I believe the scene may be gone entirely in the final cut. Anyway that whole show is not airing now because of the Lance Armstrong cheating admission.

I think I see what you're talking about...This fantasy?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfZgS6QYAlA#t=8m18s

At 9:09, was that green wall at the end of the hall added in to cover up the "light effects"? It looks like it. Never noticed that. Now we know why Francine was so overwhelmed from that dream. Was the dialogue about Mrs. Macgrady changing jobs added in as well? Because it doesn't really the fit the original context of her supposed to be "dying".

I've never noticed that. That's very interesting to see and it appears the green wall does cover that light effect.

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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2013, 11:50:40 pm »
Yes that end green wall. Actually the wall doesn't hide the effects but the end wall was originally a chroma key green wall and the effects where keyed in over that green wall. The green is keyed out and the area removed gets the effects. It was an animated fractal of her walking into the light.  Too much much for the kids?  Maybe. I don't know since the kids tend to be quicker than adults but whatever its gone now. I don't think the dialog was changed though since the dialog is recorded months before the effects are done. Not sure about that though.

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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2013, 12:11:48 am »
Yes that end green wall. Actually the wall doesn't hide the effects but the end wall was originally a chroma key green wall and the effects where keyed in over that green wall. The green is keyed out and the area removed gets the effects. It was an animated fractal of her walking into the light.  Too much much for the kids?  Maybe. I don't know since the kids tend to be quicker than adults but whatever its gone now. I don't think the dialog was changed though since the dialog is recorded months before the effects are done. Not sure about that though.

Very interesting.